Social media & Toni Jordan on planes, publishers & getting out of the house.

In this episode, Kate and Katherine discuss social media. Why it's scary, how they use it, what they could do better. And then, Kate speaks to the fabulous Toni Jordan about ideas on planes, why choosing a publisher is like dating and how she balances the creative and business sides of her writing career.

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