Origin stories & Penni Russon on motherhood, optimism & the writing community.

In this episode Katherine and Kate talk about the the stories behind their books and which bits of them are actually true. Are they really tales of accidental publication and rags (or sewage) to riches? Or did our hosts just start to believe their own spin? Then, in an interview that traverses motherhood, how to write a trilogy and why its important to make writer friends, Kate speaks to Penni Russon about what's changed in the fourteen years (and six books) between her first and her most recent novels.

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