Rick-Rolling the fertility clinic. With Kat Brown.

This week I spoke to journalist, writer, social media editor and South London amazonian, Kat Brown. During our chat, we talked about grieving for children that never were, timelines that didn't happen and what it’s like when IVF proves unsuccessful. You can follow Kat on Twitter at @KatBrown https://twitter.com/katbrown and on Instagram at @katbrownwrites https://www.instagram.com/katbrownwrites/?hl=en

I also interviewed the fertility counsellor Tracey Sainsbury, author of Making Friends With Your Fertility to get her expert opinion. I asked Tracey all about why thinking about our fertility can be so sensitive and how we can best manage those feelings.

You can follow Tracey Sainsbury on Twitter at @IVFcounsellor https://twitter.com/IVFcounsellor

Her book Making Friends with your Fertility is available here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Making-Friends-your-Fertility-reproductive/dp/0995794855/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=making+friends+with+your+fertility&qid=1616407639&sr=8-3