Power of Ten is a podcast about design operating at many levels, zooming out from thoughtful detail through to organisational transformation and on to changes in society and the world.

My guest in this episode is Donna Spencer, an independent design consultant with 20-plus years of experience across the entire design spectrum. Donna is recognised internationally as a leading UX practitioner, is a regular conference speaker and has written five books, including A Practical Guide To Information Architecture, Card Sorting and Presenting Design Work.  Many listeners will know her for co-creating the UX Australia conference, which she ran for nine years.

Here Donna speaks about her experience, her books, the need to present design work well. And we talk about how Dungeons & Dragons is an excellent way to learn about facilitation.