Forensic Psychologist Kate Wallinga Doesn't Buy Delphi Odin Claims
Oct 13, 2023, 09:00 PM
In a recent discussion on the podcast "Hidden Killers", hosted by Tony Brueski, forensic psychologist Kate Wallinga delves into a deeper, more speculative side of the Delphi murders, raising intriguing questions about our inherent human desire to find patterns and explanations, especially in dark and complicated matters.
Brueski starts by mentioning the speculations surrounding Odinism and Satanism in the context of the murders. He states, "People want a reason for things because humans being terrible doesn't seem to be enough of a reason, but sometimes that's it." Wallinga agrees, adding that some of the patterns people perceive can be "fantastical," but there may be a thread of truth in them.
Indeed, some of the suggestions linking the Delphi murders to Odinism and related topics are based on real evidence. Brueski brings attention to certain prison guards and individuals whose Facebook pages showcase Odinist symbols and ruins. While this doesn't conclusively connect them to any criminal activity, it raises the eyebrows of many.
Wallinga, with her experience in the prison system, notes that there's a "draw to darkness" in such environments. "You're spending your days on purpose with murderers. And so sometimes you get drawn to things like that," she explains. This could potentially mean that certain dark interests might not necessarily equate to guilt but rather be a result of one's professional environment.
The conversation then touches upon the broader topic of our online behavior. Wallinga humorously points out that based on her search history alone, one could assume she's involved in dark activities, which isn't the case. Humans, she explains, have an inherent need to find patterns, and the danger lies in taking these patterns as undeniable evidence.
However, certain patterns associated with the Delphi murders seem too significant to ignore. Brueski mentions posts from people, never named as suspects, who had symbols resembling those found on the victims’ bodies. Additionally, there's the controversial direction of the investigation by the chief of police, Tony Liggett. He seemed to have bypassed more plausible suspects in favor of less likely ones. Brueski suggests that this could be seen as either a conspiracy theory or simply a case of biased police work.
Wallinga doesn't shy away from expressing her skepticism about some members of law enforcement. She believes some police officers may be inclined to see only what they want to see. She states, "When you look for bad things, when you are drawn to bad things, you find it." This sentiment underlines the danger of confirmation bias in investigations.
The episode wraps up with a discussion on the feasibility of a conspiracy theory surrounding the murders. If one were to believe in a grand Odinist plot, it would require a vast number of individuals in power to be involved, all acting in perfect sync. As Wallinga puts it, the very thought of such a coordinated effort "blows it all out of the water."
The revelations and discussions from this podcast episode shed light on a significant problem in modern crime investigations. How do we distinguish between genuine patterns that lead to truth and those that are mere coincidences or products of human imagination? And when does the line between professional curiosity and personal belief get blurred?
So, as we ponder the intricacies of the Delphi murders and the theories that surround them, a pressing question remains: In our quest to find explanations in dark matters, are we sometimes seeing patterns that aren't really there?
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Brueski starts by mentioning the speculations surrounding Odinism and Satanism in the context of the murders. He states, "People want a reason for things because humans being terrible doesn't seem to be enough of a reason, but sometimes that's it." Wallinga agrees, adding that some of the patterns people perceive can be "fantastical," but there may be a thread of truth in them.
Indeed, some of the suggestions linking the Delphi murders to Odinism and related topics are based on real evidence. Brueski brings attention to certain prison guards and individuals whose Facebook pages showcase Odinist symbols and ruins. While this doesn't conclusively connect them to any criminal activity, it raises the eyebrows of many.
Wallinga, with her experience in the prison system, notes that there's a "draw to darkness" in such environments. "You're spending your days on purpose with murderers. And so sometimes you get drawn to things like that," she explains. This could potentially mean that certain dark interests might not necessarily equate to guilt but rather be a result of one's professional environment.
The conversation then touches upon the broader topic of our online behavior. Wallinga humorously points out that based on her search history alone, one could assume she's involved in dark activities, which isn't the case. Humans, she explains, have an inherent need to find patterns, and the danger lies in taking these patterns as undeniable evidence.
However, certain patterns associated with the Delphi murders seem too significant to ignore. Brueski mentions posts from people, never named as suspects, who had symbols resembling those found on the victims’ bodies. Additionally, there's the controversial direction of the investigation by the chief of police, Tony Liggett. He seemed to have bypassed more plausible suspects in favor of less likely ones. Brueski suggests that this could be seen as either a conspiracy theory or simply a case of biased police work.
Wallinga doesn't shy away from expressing her skepticism about some members of law enforcement. She believes some police officers may be inclined to see only what they want to see. She states, "When you look for bad things, when you are drawn to bad things, you find it." This sentiment underlines the danger of confirmation bias in investigations.
The episode wraps up with a discussion on the feasibility of a conspiracy theory surrounding the murders. If one were to believe in a grand Odinist plot, it would require a vast number of individuals in power to be involved, all acting in perfect sync. As Wallinga puts it, the very thought of such a coordinated effort "blows it all out of the water."
The revelations and discussions from this podcast episode shed light on a significant problem in modern crime investigations. How do we distinguish between genuine patterns that lead to truth and those that are mere coincidences or products of human imagination? And when does the line between professional curiosity and personal belief get blurred?
So, as we ponder the intricacies of the Delphi murders and the theories that surround them, a pressing question remains: In our quest to find explanations in dark matters, are we sometimes seeing patterns that aren't really there?
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com