Ruby Frankie And the Predatory World Of 'Life Coaches'
Dec 14, 2023, 06:00 PM
Can a person truly be brainwashed to the extent of overlooking the well-being of their own children? This is the central question that Tony Brueski and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott explore in a recent episode of "Hidden Killers," focusing on the complex and disturbing case involving Ruby Franke, Jodi Hildebrandt, and Kevin Franke.
Kevin Franke, Ruby’s husband, now amidst a divorce, has claimed through his attorney that he was brainwashed by Ruby and Jodi’s life coach teachings. He asserts that this manipulation rendered him oblivious to the abuse his children were undergoing. "I was so desperate to get my wife and my children back, I was willing to take anyone's advice," he reportedly said. Brueski and Scott delve into the plausibility of this defense and its implications.
Shavaun Scott, a seasoned psychotherapist, expresses skepticism about the brainwashing claim. She suggests that Kevin's situation is more indicative of a personality flaw marked by extreme passivity, rather than brainwashing typically seen in hostage scenarios or cults. "What Kevin Franke experienced is more, he's incredibly passive and let Ruby make all the big decisions regarding the kids," Scott explains, highlighting the moral failing in Kevin’s lack of initiative as a parent.
The discussion then shifts to the broader issue of the term 'life coach,' a title used by Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt. Scott expresses concern about the unregulated nature of this industry, noting the potential for psychological damage inflicted by unqualified individuals masquerading as professional advisors. "It's a scam. They're peddling snake oil with a lot of psychobabble," she remarks, pointing out the stark contrast between the rigorous training required for licensed mental health clinicians and the lack of oversight in life coaching.
Scott also delves into the insidious tactics employed by these self-proclaimed life coaches, describing how they exploit vulnerable individuals seeking quick fixes for complex issues. She emphasizes the danger of individuals like Hildebrandt, who was even recommended by a church, infiltrating trusted communities and disseminating harmful ideologies under the guise of professional guidance.
The conversation also touches on the changing dynamics within the mental health profession, with technology and other lucrative fields attracting young talent, leaving a gap in the traditional psychotherapy landscape. Scott stresses the demanding nature of the profession and the critical importance of maintaining rigorous standards to ensure public protection.
As the episode concludes, Brueski and Scott reflect on the challenging task of regulating industries like life coaching. While outright banning terms or practices may not be feasible, they agree on the importance of raising public awareness and education to prevent exploitation by unqualified individuals.
The Franke-Hildebrandt case, as dissected by Brueski and Scott, sheds light on the complexities of familial dynamics, the blurred lines between influence and neglect, and the dangers lurking in unregulated advisory roles. It serves as a cautionary tale about the lengths to which individuals may go under the influence of toxic relationships and unverified expertise.
In a world where the distinction between genuine help and harmful manipulation is increasingly blurred, how do we safeguard ourselves and our loved ones from falling prey to the hidden killers in our midst?
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Kevin Franke, Ruby’s husband, now amidst a divorce, has claimed through his attorney that he was brainwashed by Ruby and Jodi’s life coach teachings. He asserts that this manipulation rendered him oblivious to the abuse his children were undergoing. "I was so desperate to get my wife and my children back, I was willing to take anyone's advice," he reportedly said. Brueski and Scott delve into the plausibility of this defense and its implications.
Shavaun Scott, a seasoned psychotherapist, expresses skepticism about the brainwashing claim. She suggests that Kevin's situation is more indicative of a personality flaw marked by extreme passivity, rather than brainwashing typically seen in hostage scenarios or cults. "What Kevin Franke experienced is more, he's incredibly passive and let Ruby make all the big decisions regarding the kids," Scott explains, highlighting the moral failing in Kevin’s lack of initiative as a parent.
The discussion then shifts to the broader issue of the term 'life coach,' a title used by Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt. Scott expresses concern about the unregulated nature of this industry, noting the potential for psychological damage inflicted by unqualified individuals masquerading as professional advisors. "It's a scam. They're peddling snake oil with a lot of psychobabble," she remarks, pointing out the stark contrast between the rigorous training required for licensed mental health clinicians and the lack of oversight in life coaching.
Scott also delves into the insidious tactics employed by these self-proclaimed life coaches, describing how they exploit vulnerable individuals seeking quick fixes for complex issues. She emphasizes the danger of individuals like Hildebrandt, who was even recommended by a church, infiltrating trusted communities and disseminating harmful ideologies under the guise of professional guidance.
The conversation also touches on the changing dynamics within the mental health profession, with technology and other lucrative fields attracting young talent, leaving a gap in the traditional psychotherapy landscape. Scott stresses the demanding nature of the profession and the critical importance of maintaining rigorous standards to ensure public protection.
As the episode concludes, Brueski and Scott reflect on the challenging task of regulating industries like life coaching. While outright banning terms or practices may not be feasible, they agree on the importance of raising public awareness and education to prevent exploitation by unqualified individuals.
The Franke-Hildebrandt case, as dissected by Brueski and Scott, sheds light on the complexities of familial dynamics, the blurred lines between influence and neglect, and the dangers lurking in unregulated advisory roles. It serves as a cautionary tale about the lengths to which individuals may go under the influence of toxic relationships and unverified expertise.
In a world where the distinction between genuine help and harmful manipulation is increasingly blurred, how do we safeguard ourselves and our loved ones from falling prey to the hidden killers in our midst?
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com